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Old 08-19-2008, 03:42 PM
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Default why do i get like this mid cycle?

i get very few sides from cycles, no acne, water retention, anger or anything like that. but the one thing i do get is midcycle i always get worried about gains, stress over my next cycle - like the post i put about doubling test.

I try to figure out bigger n better ways of making more gains and i always convince myself what im doing at the moment isnt good enough..
im doing really well this cycle - 3 weeks in and im 12lb up so y the bloody hell am i worried??

anyone else get like this?
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:27 PM
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everyone wants a shortcut
its the if 1 is good 2 must be better theory
thats not always the case
roids are a shortcut therefor you look for more shortcuts
int he end only time workouts and diet work, even with shortcuts
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hey bro...that in its self is a side...i get all freaky and shit.....i have to slow down and tell myself...its the gear...you really dont have to kill this fucker...lol,skip
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Are you giveing yourself time to recover????
Lots of rest you will need my son
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Are you giveing yourself time to recover????
Lots of rest you will need my son
do you mean post cycle or while training?

if you mean post cycle i normally leave it 3/4 weeks including pct before starting another cycle. also take about a month off aas around christmas time to recharge my natural batteries.

If you mean training, i have made the mistake of not resting enough, but ive passed that hurdle now. I think it was a good thing that id overtrained, its taught me to listen to my body better. if my body says sit the fuck down - i do as im told now.
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if you mean post cycle i normally leave it 3/4 weeks including pct before starting another cycle
i dont understand what you mean by this
do you mean 3-4 weeks after pct is done before you start again?
or 3-4 weeks since your last AS shot before you start again?

shortest effective off time i have found is
last shot
2 weeks later once all esters wear off start pct
100mg clomid ED for 1 week
50mg clomid ED for 2 weeks
2 weeks off
then restart when i feel normal again
(if you were on all short esters like acetate, prop, suspension ish stuff you can nix the 2 weeks wait to clear your system, of course if your on eq or deca you have to lengthen it to 3 weeks)

so i guess im saying 6 weeks is about as short an off time as I have ever felt like i got my natural test going again
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i dont understand what you mean by this
do you mean 3-4 weeks after pct is done before you start again?
or 3-4 weeks since your last AS shot before you start again?

shortest effective off time i have found is
last shot
2 weeks later once all esters wear off start pct
100mg clomid ED for 1 week
50mg clomid ED for 2 weeks
2 weeks off
then restart when i feel normal again
(if you were on all short esters like acetate, prop, suspension ish stuff you can nix the 2 weeks wait to clear your system, of course if your on eq or deca you have to lengthen it to 3 weeks)

so i guess im saying 6 weeks is about as short an off time as I have ever felt like i got my natural test going again
after last as shot i ll give it two weeks for gear to get out of system, then do pct then give it a week or two to regain normality before starting back on. so more like 5/6. I meant 3/4 after starting pct
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yea thats about the same as me
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yea thats about the same as me
when i first started i did it a bit shorter, but then on the following cycle by week six i was run down all the time.

Powerlifters stay on alot of the time dont they? hows does this affect them. just out of interest.
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i have never been on over 6 months, but i know guys on for 5 years and they claim they recovered just like a 3-4 monther
doc prescribe HRT for years on end for low test levels so i cant imagine it can kil ya
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